Poll: Should NYC scrap its elite high school entrance exam?

Mayor Bill de Blasio and Richard A. Carranza, Dept. of Education Schools Chancellor at a press conference in NYC.
Mayor Bill de Blasio and Richard A. Carranza, Dept. of Education Schools Chancellor at a press conference in NYC.
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Mayor Bill de Blasio and Richard A. Carranza, Dept. of Education Schools Chancellor at a press conference in NYC.

Poll: Should NYC scrap its elite high school entrance exam?

Bill de Blasio’s proposal is back in the spotlight as fewer black students make the cut.
March 19, 2019

Last year, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio unveiled an audacious proposal: get rid of the entrance exam for the city’s elite high schools.

“Eight of our most renowned high schools – including Stuyvesant High School, Bronx High School of Science and Brooklyn Technical High School – rely on a single, high-stakes exam,” the mayor wrote in an op-ed. “The Specialized High School Admissions Test isn’t just flawed – it’s a roadblock to justice, progress and academic excellence. If we want this to be the fairest big city in America, we need to scrap the SHSAT and start over.”

This week, new figures came out showing that the already small number of black students admitted to these elite schools is continuing to dwindle even further.

But while many observers agree that something needs to change, there’s plenty of debate over how to actually address the racial disparities. In this week’s reader poll, we’re asking you to weigh in.

What should NYC do with the Specialized High School Admissions Test?

Keep it
90%
Eliminate it
6%
Improve teaching in all schools so that all students have a better chance oh getting accepted. In addition improve all HS.
1%
!. Make the Middle Schools minority students attend better; 2. Provide free prep courses for poor minority students.
1%
1. All students take test in school during the day 2. Free test prep in school 3. Test counts for 20% along with other criteria.
1%
Abandon the current exam and adopt a new exam that is less predictable, and cannot be gamed by attending prep programs.
1%
Add multiple measures
1%
Add special skills that Blacks and Hispanics are gifted at. Less of the cognitive and affective skills Visual and physical sk
1%
Add teacher and mentor recommendations —see the whole child.
1%
Admissions should be based on more than just one test, but the whole student.
1%
Admissions to these schools should be based on Test Scores, Grades, Behavior, Teacher Recommendations
1%
Align selection process to what colleges do to include interviews, other type of tests, etc.
1%
ALL New York City schools from elementary, middle school and high school should have a gifted and talented class(es).
1%
Alter the test to remove implicit bias
1%
Apply a multiple measures approach to asses academic success
1%
Ask the mayor where the 773millions have gone? How much does he pay to his SPECIAL assistants?
1%
Based on grades. Top 5% and combination of community work
1%
Better educational quality in low-income neighborhoods
1%
Break up the big NYC department of education. Set up borough board of education. keep our top students in our own boroughs.
1%
Bring back homogeneous tracking and gifted/talented programs to the black/brown communities
1%
Build more elite specialized high school.
1%
build more new specialized HS, setup 2 entrance system, one with the test-keep as is; the other set with other criterias.
1%
Build more specialized high schools & fix the public school system from grades K-8.
1%
Change K-8 education so that the curriculum includes SHSAT material.
1%
Change test every year. Put prep centers out of business. They just cheat - not help. Prep MS kids in schools by DOE.
1%
Combination of test and grades
1%
Combination of test and other student data
1%
Combination of test, grades and recommended by MS administrators
1%
Combine it with other metrics
1%
Combine SHSAT with other admissions criteria. AND expand number of SHS seats.
1%
Combine the test and grade
1%
Combo of exam, grades, experience
1%
Combo of grades, shsat and personal essay
1%
Consider segregating kids such that education of parents is mixed such that college educated parents equal 60%. Subsidize if not
1%
Creat more specialized high schools!
1%
Create a special program for black students with good grades to get free or online special help to make sure they make the grade
1%
Create a test which reflects what students have been taught in NYC public schools, not what they can only know through tutoring.
1%
Create centers that will help underprivileged kids get tutoring for entrance exams for free.
1%
Create more bettter schools for kids
1%
Create new high schools with banding of test scores and school grades as admission factors
1%
do like the colleges and use test scores with essays, interviews, applications, etc. to make a well rounded evaluation
1%
Do not scrap the test, create better middle school prep across the board!!!!
1%
Each student needs interviews, questions can be life passion, what will you do to change the world, action plan
1%
Earn your seat at an elite school. Stop blaming the system, blame the parents.
1%
Eliminate it but also equitably fund schools and integrate schools
1%
Eliminate the mayor control!
1%
Every kid should be required to take the test
1%
Expand the Discovery program, more importantly fix K-8 education, majority of students are sorted by 3rd grade in NYC
1%
Find a more equitable means of admissions so that specialized schools are reflective of NYC student populations
1%
Fire Carranza because he didn’t do his job to improve all nyc public school. Why he is so focus on this 8 special high school
1%
Fire Carranza. Both the mayor and he are racists.
1%
Fire chancellor!!!
1%
Fire DOE chancellor immediately
1%
Fire DOE Chancellor Richard Carranza
1%
Fire Richard Carranza, Dept. of Education Schools Chancellor
1%
Fire Richard A. Carranza, the failure of nyc education system
1%
Fire Richard Caranza
1%
Fire Richard Carranza NOW!
1%
Fire the Chancellor
1%
Fire the Chancellor Richard A. Carraze
1%
Fire The Chancellor Richard Carranza & Remove Him From His Office IMMEDIATELY!
1%
Fire the chancellor.
1%
Fire the DOE Chancellor NOW!!!
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Caranzza and remove him from the office Immediately
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Carranza and remove him from his office IMMEDIATELY
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Carranza and remove him from NYC IMMEDIATELY
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Carranza IMMEDIATELY and remove him from his office.
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Carranza, and remove him from DOE IMMEDIATELY!
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Carranza, and remove him from his office IMMEDIATELY
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Carranza, and remove him from his office IMMEDIATELY!
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor Richard Carranza.
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor!
1%
Fire the DOE chancellor.
1%
Fire the incompetent Chancellor has immediately.
1%
Fix the terrible school system instead of blaming the test
1%
Focus on improving schools in underserved neighborhoods. There should be dozens not 8 quality high schools across the city.
1%
Focus on increased preparation for entrance exams for all students.
1%
free programs for every middle school to give students who want to take the test opportunity to prepare for it.
1%
Give minority’s extra points to make it more fair
1%
Government need put more resources into the education system!
1%
Have more gifted classes from elementary to Junior high school to prepare kids for the test
1%
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1%
Hybrid, 1 prt test,1 prt top gpa from all schools
1%
If you want eliminate admission test, then you should get rid of all those special schools, make them regular schools
1%
Imorove elementary and middle schools. More parent education!
1%
Impeach DeBlasio! He is using eliminating SHSAT to cover his failure on education !
1%
Improve elementary and middle school education in public system first!
1%
Improve elementary and middle school in black and brown neighborhoods. Give all districts what District 2 NYC receive.
1%
Improve K-8 education in predominately minority schools. Less focus on testing, more emphasis on the foundational blocks
1%
Improve schools in underserved areas and/or create magnet schools to educate students who are determined to have potential.
1%
Improve the quality of all high schools so competition to get into "elite" schools is not necessary. Spread resources more.
1%
Include multiple measures admissions process for SHS. Improve all high schools in New York City.
1%
Include other criteria in the admission process (eg grades)
1%
Increase affirmative action and test-prep programs, set up a program where seniors at SHS can do test prep for community service
1%
Increase diversity through other demographics
1%
Increase the number of honors programs across all middle and high schools, create additional specialized high schools.
1%
Institute a holistic process
1%
Integrate & reform entire NYC public school system
1%
intergrate our segregated neighborhoods. Provide greater funded at the elementary and middle school level for gifted and talent.
1%
Invest in primary and middle schools so that kids can qualify outright for high schools, and add more specialized high school seats
1%
It should be a combination of exam results, grades, interview/essay
1%
just add more seats to all the classrooms at Stuyvesant hs and raise the limit of students and then there will be more qualified
1%
Keep it and better the elementary and middle schools
1%
Keep it and create borough high schools for the top five students in each middle school.
1%
Keep it and expand Discovery program
1%
Keep it AND figure out a way to make it equitable!
1%
Keep it and invest efforts in inproving the entire school system as a whole. Hire more. Hire quality. Smaller class sizes.
1%
Keep it and ramp up preparation study for minority students.
1%
Keep it and then used the proposed top 7% for another tier of schools
1%
keep it as 50% , 25%average, and 25%state exams
1%
Keep it but offer more specialized high school and test prep for all students
1%
Keep it but prepare students better in middle school to make it more accessible. First and foremost lower class size!
1%
Keep it BUT the score should not be the sole component of worth
1%
Keep it, but make it one of the factors of admission thus making test prep craze less relevant. BTHS was diverse 20yrs ago.
1%
keep it. The admission should based on the SHSAT test score, statewide test result and school result instead of only based on SSHSATtestscore
1%
Keep it. Bring lower grades education higher like within 10 yrs frame. Teach instead of prep for common core test.
1%
Keep SHSAT, Fire Chancellor
1%
Keep SHSAT.
1%
Keep SHSAT/Fire the DOE Chancellor,
1%
Keep test and add screening for grades.
1%
Keep the SHSAT and refocus all this energy into fixing the other k-12 schools in NYC.
1%
Keep the test but only as a small component towards eligibility. Weigh in more factors from students middle school classwork.
1%
Keep the Test for Stuyvesant Bronx Science and Brooklyn Technical. Eliminate it for the other 5 with Mayoral Control.
1%
Keep the test, but also admit top 1-3% of every city middle school. Add more seats.
1%
Keep the test, but combine it with other measures of excellence.
1%
Keep the test, offer seats on whatever basis ensures geographic diversity, and increase outreach in under-represented districts.
1%
Keep the test, reverse the proposal and fire the chancellor. SHS keeps our education system strong
1%
Keep the test. But reschedule it to later in the 8th grade year, and make it on a school day and standard for all 8th graders.
1%
keep the test. create a more holistic process. The test is just a scapegoat for all the underlying issues.
1%
look at improving elementary and middle schools.
1%
Make an admission test that is applicable for all students. One that people don’t have access to pay for preparation. Similar
1%
Make information regarding all high school admissions more easily available
1%
make more elite classrooms, and make everyone take the SHSAT test
1%
Make sure all public schools are teaching the same thing at the same time so the test is equal for all.
1%
more elite schools with special attention to quality ed for minorities
1%
More high quality high schools
1%
more specialized high school
1%
multi-measure admissions
1%
not all kids are book smart, there are many talented kids that need a chance to get in to school
1%
Offer a flex range for students from low performing schools. Free prep courses for 7th and 8th graders in low performing school
1%
Offer quality education in every neighborhood from Pre-K to 12th grade.
1%
Portfolio based assessment and interview of student, like other elite (but not specialized) schools do.
1%
Prepare ALL students for it. Not just those in low income receiving subsidized meals or those in G&T programs.
1%
Provide access to programs that can better prepare black students for SHSAT . That will level the field.
1%
Provide all schools with preparation for the exam so that each and every student has the same baseline and opportunity.
1%
Provide free SHSAT test prep in low-income communities of color.
1%
Radically improve the funding for poorer high schools, +hire more teachers with Master and Doctorate degrees in actual subjects.
1%
Remove the chancellor from his position immediately
1%
Scrap the test and have students submit portfolio work
1%
Set a cut off line on the 7th grade state test score
1%
SHSAT is a very important test to screen academic excellence students, but the scoring system needs to be modified
1%
Snigger at the blacks who failed
1%
Take into account grades, state test scores, and possibly an interview.
1%
Take report card grade into consideration. Standardized exam 75% and report card grade 25% to determine overall score.
1%
Teach all elementary and middle school students math.
1%
test
1%
Test and grades and teacher rec
1%
Test should be modified to eliminate racial bias and augmented by allowing applicants to show excellence in other ways.
1%
The exam is identical for all students; convenient but wrong to blame the exam. Learn why students of color have lower scores!
1%
The focus should on raising the academic level of groups of students that are not making into thes high schools.
1%
The issue was the racial disparities, not the academic performance, folks! Save your time, not the SHSAT.
1%
The solutions is not getting rid of or dumbing down the test. The solution is overhauling the current system and better training
1%
There has to be some objective exam as well as weighing other factors. How have private and parochial high schools done it??
1%
There needs to be a full court press on creating test prep for kids in communities of color.
1%
To get full diversity those who score highest from their ethnic group should be chosen using a formula of % in public schools
1%
Top.achievers in middle schools
1%
Tutor poor kids for the exam
1%
Update it and add more specialized schools
1%
Use a holistic approach to admission.
1%
Use both their SHSAT grade and their current grades and use then both as factors to determine who goes where
1%
Use millionaire TAX to fund failing K8 schools
1%
Use multiple factors and not just one test
1%
Use the exam as part of a more wholistic evaluation of each student
1%
Use the test as one element of admission, but widen the net to include kids who are tops in all middle schools
1%
We should Eliminate Richard A. Carranza from his current Dept. of Education Schools Chancellor position , he is NOT fitting it.
1%
Why do we have these segregated schools? We should focus on making all schools excellent and integrated. https://mets2006.wordp
1%
Why not state tests?because he knows it’s same result,he knows he failed the kids!
1%
“Fire the chancellor!”
1%
“Fire the DOE chancellor!”
1%
Do something else (write your answer below)
5%
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